Wale has been in the game for a while now and his story has many twists and turns. He has hopped around between record labels and management teams. His career can be broken down into the various business arrangements he was entangled in at given stages. In his new hour-and-fourty-minute interview on Joe Budden‘s “Pull Up” series, they chronicle these stages to arrive at Wale’s current situation and state of mind. Towards the end of their chat, Budden asks, “In 2020, is there anybody you need to make it right with?” Without hesitating, Wale responds that he feels there’s a crucial conversation to be had between him and Jay-Z. 

“HOV,” Wale says. “That’s my idol. That’s my Michael Jordan. I just feel there’s one conversation we gotta have, but it ain’t nothing bad though. We just gotta have one conversation. I mean like, there was a time when I could reach Obama easier than I could reach Jay-Z. Jay-Z took me on my first world tour. He took me on my first major domestic tour. I learned a lot from him. This is a conversation we probably should have soon. Things I wanna tell him.”

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“Just a real solid convo,” the DMV rapper adds. “Like where I’m at now as a grown man. You know, I left Roc Nation as a child.” Wale signed to the Roc, Jay-Z’s management company, in 2009 and left in 2014, when he was 29 years old. Budden wondered whether both Wale and Roc Nation were children, in a metaphorical sense, at the time: “you in your infancy stage as an artist and Roc Nation in its infancy stage as a growing business.” 

Earlier in the interview, Budden got frustrated with Wale for not giving in-depth and honest answers to his questions, specifically one about his hit “On Chill”. 

A few days ago, it was revealed that Snoop Dogg would be the guest on the next episode of Red Table Talk, the Facebook Watch talk-show hosted by Jada Pinkett Smith, Adrienne Banfield-Jones and Willow Smith. Jada detailed that the conversation with Snoop with focus on "The Culture of Disrespect Between Black Men and Black Women", in light of his recent criticism of Gayle King. 

King was the target of significant backlash after she brought up Kobe Bryant's past rape allegations in an interview with Lisa Leslie. Many felt that King was wrongfully besmirching Bryant's legacy during a time when his family, friends and fans were grieving his unexpected passing. Snoop was one of her loudest detractors, taking to Instagram to deliver a message that was perceived as overly-aggressive. The rapper later backtracked on his statement. He apologized for coming down on King too hard and clarified that he did not intend to promote any violence.

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However, the conversation is not ending there. The next episode of RTT will unpack the intentions and ramifications of Snoop's remarks. In the trailer that Jada shared, she explains to Snoop her initial reaction the controversy. "When you first came out and you said what you said... you know, in regards to Gayle... my heart dropped. I felt that not only were you talking to Gayle, but you were talking to me. I was like, 'Oh no, Snoop has now taken the power flow away from me, away from Willow, away from my mother." Snoop nods his head when hearing this, suggesting that was never his intent. Jada continues, "I was like [gasp]. If this is what's happening... not Snoop! That's one of the reasons I felt like I really wanted to have a conversation with you in the spirit of healing."